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3442 kicks Ass



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject: griddle Car E1883 Reply with quote

Saw the griddle car advertised for sale in Heritage railway a few issues ago.
Has it been sold and can anyone say where it is going to be based.
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walton_cw



Joined: 02 Jul 2003
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Location: Bridgnorth

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Griddle Car 1883 Reply with quote

No it hasn't been sold yet although there has been some interest.
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Jurasik



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a shame. I was told by a SVR volunteer that the coach is unique. Anybody know why it is being sold?
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allison_p



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Location: Brierley Hill

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may be unique, but it's a pain to work with. When i was a trolley dolly many moons ago (remember??) I used to work on it. You either froze in the winter or boiled in the summer, because the pressure ventilation would flatten the batteries beacause of the low speed. Passengers also hated the unqiue seating arrangment, and it had no capacity. The kitchen area also neeeded major work doing to it, if you were cooking it got too hot (even in winter) if you used the extractor fans for too long again flat batteries !
One nice feature was the bar lounge at one end, ala pub style.
It would, however, make a very good vehicle for a mainline operator, where low speeds are not a problem, they may also have the finanances to upgrade the kitchen equipment.
The sister vehicle, a booth car 1882 is based on the gwili railway.
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walton_cw



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Griddle Car 1883 Reply with quote

The owners want to use the proceeds to part fund the renovation of kitchen/buffet car 1682.

The background and purpose of these griddle cars is best described in detail by the specialist books on Mk1 coaches.

Fundamentally it is an experimental style of catering vehicle with seperate serveries for cooked snacks and drinks. In order to discourage people from spending too long in the tabled seats after eating their food the seats were "deliberately" designed to be uncomfortable.
The other end of the coach were side facing bench seating facing to a table for drinks to be placed on. This would be a nice comfortable area but for the fact that is esentially a well used thoroughfare and makes you feel that you are sitting in a corridor.

There is also no steam heat in the vehicle and the windows are fully glazed units.

The majority of passengers do not realise any of the above. To them it is an uncomfortable vehicle to be in and reflects , in their eyes, to the detriment of SVR. This means that it becomes another 37 or so tonnes being dragged around and mostly empty when the steward is down the train with the trolley.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: griddle car Reply with quote

I must be the only one who,s loves The griddle car's on the SVR and on the main line a long time ago,Showing my age now Rolling Eyes

MARTIN Very Happy
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KHARDS



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember when I had faggots in the Griddle Car. Beautiful. I have always liked its "uniquity."
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xpc smooth



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to confess, I'm quite fond of it too. Had lots of very convivial drinkies in there, with like-minded souls.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love that coach on a winters evening with a bottle of beer in the hand...

How much... I want it... lol
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cherry_p



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brasso1 wrote:
I love that coach on a winters evening with a bottle of beer in the hand...

How much... I want it... lol

if you were a bit more civilised, the beer would be in a glass!...... Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cherry_p wrote:
brasso1 wrote:
I love that coach on a winters evening with a bottle of beer in the hand...

How much... I want it... lol

if you were a bit more civilised, the beer would be in a glass!...... Smile


Possibly a Plastic... (H&S)
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