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boldford



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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. . .designed to run in either direction without wearing out the trailing coupled wheels excessively.
That tends to exclude every tender engine. Or at least those with poor rearward visibility. Unlike 46443 which has proved its worth many times over for footplate experience courses.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian, the topic was "most" suitable loco, so that does not exclude any others from being "suitable", which appears to include the various medium-sized tender engines.
It is however a matter of opinion, and as others have implied by their choice, pushing a tender up or down the Valley is not considered to be a disadvantage.

The main thing after all is that we have plenty of them, and mainly in-ticket !
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

82046 should be useful, as the teething troubles noted on 82045 will have been ironed out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

82046 should be useful, as the teething troubles noted on 82045 will have been ironed out.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derby4 wrote:
Brian, the topic was "most" suitable loco, . . . .
Surprised The word suitable was mentioned neither by myself nor in the original thread title. Only later did Plato muddy the water with that word. The original word used was useful; a subtle, but importance, difference. Perhaps Plato has caused two debates to run concurrently.

The class 20 has proved itself to be useful frequently yet it wouldn't be suitable to haul our passenger trains frequently.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian, Plato did indeed redefine his question to "most suitable" from "useful", but that said, the words have similar meaning. The word that stands out in the definition of "suitable" is "convenient", and I suppose a "thunderbird" loco that can be activated at short notice for instance to rescue another locomotive and its train in difficulty has to be of value.
I agree though, you could never say that a Class 20 was suitable for regular use, our customers in the main dont come to the SVR for Class 20 haulage. And it is a quite smelly thing anyway!! Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derby4 wrote:
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I agree though, you could never say that a Class 20 was suitable for regular use, our customers in the main dont come to the SVR for Class 20 haulage. And it is a quite smelly thing anyway!! Wink


They do if there's a diesel gala. This leads me on, to say that I see, that Western Courier, and some other SVR diesels are going to the ELR this weekend for their diesel gala. I'll be following on Saturday. I cannot take any more 1940's music or German guards! Wink I feel like I living in a tyrannical state with Brown in charge.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe, it is our everyday passengers who require steam haulage, the SVR cannot survive on diesel gala patronage!...but you knew that anyway Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derby4 wrote:
. . . .And it is a quite smelly thing anyway!! Wink
Aren't they all?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian, its the "wrong kind of smell"...

T'was a Gala day last year, and the 20 was sat on tickover (or is it "idle"?) at the Kidderminster bufferstops for quite a while, and the wind was blowing from the yard to the station, ie into the concourse....need I say any more.... Crying or Very sad

Everything has its use, but we are mostly a steam railway, said he, stating the obvious.

Right away...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derby4 wrote:
Joe, it is our everyday passengers who require steam haulage, the SVR cannot survive on diesel gala patronage!...but you knew that anyway Wink
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I love steam, though I do like to be taken back to the 1970's my trainspotting days now and then.
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