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stowell_d
Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 49 Location: Everywhere and nowhere
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| boldford wrote: | Highly flattered, as I am, by stowell_d's kind comments I must remind him I am only one of a number of people who produce said patterns. IIRC the most recently produced S&T patterns being a signal wire pulley pattern being made by Gordon and a GW signal post finial by myself.
I just happen to be the most vociferous one of them. |
Point taken Brian, and indeed it probably was your famed eagerness to communicate that led to a little bit of laziness on the keyboard on my part! I do of course appreciate that the pattern shop, just like the S&T dept and indeed quite a few other vital parts of the railway, depends upon small groups of skilled individuals who are happy to beaver away out of the limelight.
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boldford

Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 1743 Location: Glad to be no longer stuck on that linear parking lot known better as the M6
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| stowell_d wrote: | | . . . . . famed eagerness to communicate . . . . | ROTFL. A much nicer alternative to "vociferous". _________________ Nostalgic for the simpler life of light straw but loosing concern that if you can't telnet to it, it's simply not worth going! |
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Derby4
Joined: 21 Mar 2009 Posts: 463 Location: Hereford
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| Any further news of progress please? |
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hassell_a
Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 1193 Location: Staffordshire
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| Derby4 wrote: | | Any further news of progress please? |
Sorry, I wasn't there last weekend so can't provide an update... _________________ Adrian
http://www.4930hagleyhall.org.uk |
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Joe2027

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 394 Location: Wednesfield
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:53 am Post subject: |
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[quote="hassell_a"] | Derby4 wrote: | | Any further news of progress please? |
How's it going? As it been finished yet? |
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stowell_d
Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 49 Location: Everywhere and nowhere
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Joe2027 wrote: | | As it been finished yet? |
I'm sure Brian will be along shortly to hand out an LTA!
In answer, no it hasn't, there are still several days work required. Pictures of progress over the last three weeks can be seen here:-
http://davidsphotos.ukgrrls.co.uk/c1807566.html with thanks to John Smith for pictures taken while I was away.
The situation at the end of yesterday's work can be seen here:-
http://davidsphotos.ukgrrls.co.uk/p63424009.html
Although the rails and sleepers are in place and ballasted there are still many important bits of ironwork to be fitted before trains can run. First of all however the tamping machine needs to complete its work and this will also establish the final level of the track. Once this has been done the remaining point stretcher bars can be fitted and then various rods to drive the points and FPL along with the connections to the detection for the home signal can be fitted, adjusted and tested.
As can also be seen from the pictures, the concrete pedestals which support the rodding run are now in position (subject to final levelling of the track) however the ground around these needs to be built up with spoil/ballast/earth to lock them firmly in place. This actually makes a pleasant change from the more usual situation where we have excavate holes in which to sit them. When re-instating the rodding run at Highley on the freshly compacted embankment after the flood repairs this was a really back breaking job!
While the station has been closed the opportunity has also been taken to refurbish the point and FPL rodding run for the north end points along with the associated cranks and fittings. This was quite a substantial job in its own right and the final fitting and adjustments were made yesterday ready for re-opening. The signalmen will notice quite a difference!
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hassell_a
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boldford

Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 1743 Location: Glad to be no longer stuck on that linear parking lot known better as the M6
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| hassell_a wrote: | | . . . . .In the end, Chris's boot proved to be more succesful than my prayers! | 'cos you wasn't facing east! _________________ Nostalgic for the simpler life of light straw but loosing concern that if you can't telnet to it, it's simply not worth going! |
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Derby4
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| Does the higher level of the track at the South points at HL require a "run-off" of that higher level to get back to the correct level for the start of the HL platform, or does the underlying gradient of the track bed take care of that?l |
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hassell_a
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| Derby4 wrote: | | Does the higher level of the track at the South points at HL require a "run-off" of that higher level to get back to the correct level for the start of the HL platform, or does the underlying gradient of the track bed take care of that?l |
I don't think that the track will end up at a higher level once tamping is complete. Remember that the existing embankment has been compacted down, so there is a high level of ballast to bring things back to their former level. _________________ Adrian
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Derby4
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Ah thanks Adrian. I was assuming that the whole formation was higher, with the concrete pedestals having to be filled around rather than dug in, but as you say, if the embankment itself is lower, then they will sit on top.
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Buffer
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 165 Location: Somewhere in England
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| stowell_d wrote: | | Joe2027 wrote: | | As it been finished yet? |
In answer, no it hasn't, there are still several days work required.
Although the rails and sleepers are in place and ballasted there are still many important bits of ironwork to be fitted before trains can run. First of all however the tamping machine needs to complete its work and this will also establish the final level of the track. Once this has been done the remaining point stretcher bars can be fitted and then various rods to drive the points and FPL along with the connections to the detection for the home signal can be fitted, adjusted and tested. |
Will it be possible with the new installation to lock the south end points with the lever normal or reverse? _________________ Buffer |
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stowell_d
Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 49 Location: Everywhere and nowhere
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Buffer wrote: |
Will it be possible with the new installation to lock the south end points with the lever normal or reverse? |
Strictly speaking the south end is a reconstruction of the previous installation rather than a new installation. No changes have been made to the existing locking arrangements, therefore the facing point lock only locks the points for the signalled facing move with the points lying normal (for the "straight" road").
The box diagram can be seen here:- http://www.svrsig.org/svr/Frame7.htm
The south end points and fpl are numbers 11 and 12 respectively. |
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Buffer
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 165 Location: Somewhere in England
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| stowell_d wrote: | | Buffer wrote: |
Will it be possible with the new installation to lock the south end points with the lever normal or reverse? |
Strictly speaking the south end is a reconstruction of the previous installation rather than a new installation. No changes have been made to the existing locking arrangements, therefore the facing point lock only locks the points for the signalled facing move with the points lying normal (for the "straight" road").
The box diagram can be seen here:- http://www.svrsig.org/svr/Frame7.htm
The south end points and fpl are numbers 11 and 12 respectively. |
Many thanks for the information. I wonder why Hampton Loade south end is different from Arley north end as at neither location is it possible to signal a facing move on the "wrong" road. Historical I presume. _________________ Buffer |
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heap_r
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Buffer wrote: | | Many thanks for the information. I wonder why Hampton Loade south end is different from Arley north end as at neither location is it possible to signal a facing move on the "wrong" road. Historical I presume. |
As you say, it is the "wrong road" and also unsignalled, so there is no need to lock it. |
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