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MD655



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:14 am    Post subject: BR Rudd Ballast Wagons. Reply with quote

I see that some of the Rudd wagons have been in use at Arley. If I remeber rightly, these and others arrived on the railway a few years ago during the flood repairs.......? Have these now been aquired by the railway or have the original owners of these wagons fogetten to take them back?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If memory serves me right, the owners lent them to us in 2007, but they forgot they were soon due for some "fit to run on main line", (don't know the correct term) testing. So when they wanted them back they had to arrange for expensive road transportation to the test site before they'd be allowed on the national network.
So, unless things have changed, and I'm not saying they haven't, they're here 'til someone wants them enough to pay for the haulage and testing. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having done an air brake course with them last year - the inspection dates were all 2007 on the underframes, some have brand new buffers on them. They have basically been 'Lost' as there is no work for them on the big railway as short wheelbased wagons are in the process of being phased out.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better use them before we "loose" them, if that is the case.
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MD655



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. Thanks for that. Lets hope they stay then as I'm sure the railway will put them to good use as can be seen at Arley.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are certainly very uselful. Quite good for the logging trains and for transporting ash/ballast etc and it stops the older wagons being messed up too.
Sure it's been mentioned before but is there any possibility of these being used at the diesel gala? (assuming they will still be here).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do hope to attend the diesel Gala this year like many others, but are you suggesting these wagons be used instead of coaches? Shocked Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oliver wrote:
They are certainly very uselful. Quite good for the logging trains and for transporting ash/ballast etc and it stops the older wagons being messed up too.
Sure it's been mentioned before but is there any possibility of these being used at the diesel gala? (assuming they will still be here).


They have been used on a photo charter with 37 906 a couple of years ago. I'm sure the gala comitee are open to suggestions, but remember that goods trains take up paths for passenger trains. There is also the problem of limited number of air brake trained guards.
I organised two log collection trains using D1888, six rudds and 34027's support coach a couple of years ago, it did look like an engieers train from the late 80's!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

allison_p wrote:
There is also the problem of limited number of air brake trained guards.

Do you need a guard if it's fully fitted? Or has that changed recently?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if they would look right behind a maroon thousand.......? Confused I'd like to give it a go though. It was great fun when we trundled around with some 6 wheel milk tanks many years ago. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heap_r wrote:
allison_p wrote:
There is also the problem of limited number of air brake trained guards.

Do you need a guard if it's fully fitted? Or has that changed recently?


Yes, you need a qualified guard to carry out the brake test, the proceedure is a bit different to vacuum braked stock. An overcharge of the brake system is needed to ensure that there is sufficent air in the brake reserviors. Failure to carry out properly can cause dragging brakes. DIC, RIC, PULL, KICK.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

allison_p wrote:
heap_r wrote:
allison_p wrote:
There is also the problem of limited number of air brake trained guards.

Do you need a guard if it's fully fitted? Or has that changed recently?


Yes, you need a qualified guard to carry out the brake test, the proceedure is a bit different to vacuum braked stock. An overcharge of the brake system is needed to ensure that there is sufficent air in the brake reserviors. Failure to carry out properly can cause dragging brakes. DIC, RIC, PULL, KICK.

Aaaah, yes. Hadn't thought of the brake test bit, just the actual transit bit.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NBI

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Following the storm damage of 2007, EWS (now DB Schenker), through the auspices of Gwyn Reece, lent the SVR 15 RUDD wagons for use during the repair work. They were used extensively for this repair project and have been employed on many project on the Railway since this time.

DB Schenker contacted the SVR this year to inform us that the wagons were available for purchase, and following negotiation I can announce that they have been bought for a competitive price. I would like to thank two individuals who have provided finances to assist with the cost of purchase.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any chance of a picture?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hunter_i wrote:
Any chance of a picture?

If it's the wagons you want:-

http://www.svrwiki.com/%27Rudd%27_Ballast_Wagons

Although the link to the first one shows the wrong wagon!
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