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Old photos - Kidderminster & Stourport trams

 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:11 pm    Post subject: Old photos - Kidderminster & Stourport trams Reply with quote

I thought I'd keep these separate as they're not SVR, but still of interest. Trams ran between Kidderminster and Stourport from 1898 to 1929.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need to organise these photos like the others.
In the mean time, here's another undated one of Bridge Street, Stourport.


15380587_1331939666858216_8413990156220903665_n by Graham Phillips, on Flickr

Source: https://www.facebook.com/STOURPORTPAST/photos/a.334967279888798.113991.162591650459696/1331939666858216/?type=3&theater
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undated, presumably the first day of operation, 1898.
Quote:
"In 1898 the 1st trams came trundling into Stourport.
Isaac Wedley said that everyone went wild on that day, with crowds waiting and queuing all day long. It was impossible to have a proper timetable as the trams were always rammed with people to its full capacity as soon as they arrived back at the Kidderminster terminus. During its 1st year, The Electric Tramway Company carried 753,500 passengers. The trams ran daily ,the first one leaving at 5.30am and the last one at 11.30pm



18034302_1477697202282461_7155557145468757620_n by Graham Phillips, on Flickr

Source: https://www.facebook.com/STOURPORTPAST/photos/a.334967279888798.113991.162591650459696/1477697202282461/?type=3&theater
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caption on Facebook; "FOUNDRY STREET 1911....the occasion for decorating the tram was probably the coronation of king george v in 1911"


18268179_1497326563652858_2663430340879199091_n by Graham Phillips, on Flickr

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a site on British tramway badges and buttons. I won't copy all the pictures across to here, there's a few of the trams, but not surprisingly, it focuses mainly on the uniforms, badges and buttons with a short history of the company. Follow the link if you want to see them.
http://www.tramwaybadgesandbuttons.com/page148/styled-79/styled-39/page469.html
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undated.


16d77dba7ccbb247e105ccd33abc7033 by Graham Phillips, on Flickr

Source: https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/321796335861236225/

Does anyone understand tram wires?
Looking at various pictures, it looks like it was a single line system with passing loops, with each tram picking up from one of two overhead wires, which would allow them to pass without having to disconnect as they did so.
Why are there four wires here?
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two suggestions:

a) Artist's license!

b) Could it be the changeover between two electrically isolated sections, with the normal two wires in the passing loop doubled, and the trams switching from one wire to another in order to continue? The equivalent of a neutral section with railway OHLE.

(Note that I definitely do not come under the title of "someone who understands tram wires"!)
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that artistic license may well be at play. However, looking at the map of the system on the Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidderminster_and_Stourport_Electric_Tramway_Company#/media/File:Kidderminster_and_Stourport_Electric_Tramway_Company.jpg

The line goes into Oxford Street from the South and terminates, with a separate spur coming back out on a branch to the East. The view in the picture appears to be looking towards that dead end with the junction behind the photographer/artist. So two branches linking into two parallel dead ends could require four overhead lines.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've added a page on the Wiki with some brief details of the interaction between the SVR and the tramway. Please feel free to add any information or non-copyright pictures...

http://www.svrwiki.com/Kidderminster_and_Stourport_Electric_Tramway
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this in a history of the tramway published this year: "Although the system was mainly single track, the overhead was a double wire throughout, obviating the need for frogs and reducing the size of the feeder cables." With Oxford Street being a junction and each route using double wires, this would explain the four wires.

(The 'frog' splits a single wire in two at junctions and passing loops - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolleybus#Wire_switches for a good explanation. Obviously not required if you use one wire for each direction thoughout.)
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