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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Time it was returned to Crewe perhaps - with a bill for the work undertaken on it so far at SVR expense. This project sounds dead & is taking up space.
I'm unsure whether or not that would be the best option under the prevailing circumstances. I believe it had been considered but at what hourly rate do you charge for volunteer time?

All in all; a bit of a mess that could do with being sorted one way or t'other really.


One possibility that might be explored is to let Bridgnorth do the whole job under contract when we have the spare capacity to do so.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There had been some "chatter" a while back that Mr W was losing interest in his steam locos. Perhaps if 6634 is owned by the Waterman Trust, the Trust could donate the loco and its intended boiler unit to the SVR Charitable Trust for them to deal with in the future as and when funds are available.
There again....
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

would it be too much to ask if we could add 5553, 5224 and 7027 to that donation Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

std tank wrote:
Danny252 wrote:
bradleyman wrote:
Time it was returned to Crewe perhaps - with a bill for the work undertaken on it so far at SVR expense. This project sounds dead & is taking up space.


Last time I was around Crewe (a couple of weeks back now), there were at least half a dozen boilers sat around outside their workshops, rusting away - plenty more dead projects there than here, it seems.

Really, other than 6634's boiler, what were the others off?


Having been up and looked, it turns out that the vast majority of boilers were unidentifiable (i.e. no numbers chalked on). There were 10 unknown boilers sat outside, another which I was told is 60009's spare boiler, various bits of Thornbury Castle, and the cab of 92203 and frames of 63395 (suggesting that their boilers were amongst those there).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete Waterman has sold his London & North Western Railway Heritage business, based at Crewe Heritage Centre to locomotive owner Jeremy Hosking.


The deal means that its business as usual for the boiler shop and overhaul facility at Crewe, with what are described as "exciting times ahead".

http://railwayherald.com/uknews/lner-heritage-business-sold-to-jeremy-hosking

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:36 am    Post subject: 6634 Reply with quote

Does this deal include the locos, or is it just the works ?
Whatever, how will it affect the agreement re 6634 and the SVR, or is it worth looking into buying it into a group on the railway ?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: 6634 Reply with quote

Peter Share wrote:
Does this deal include the locos, or is it just the works ?
Whatever, how will it affect the agreement re 6634 and the SVR, or is it worth looking into buying it into a group on the railway ?

Peter

PW's locomotives are owned by the Waterman Railway Heritage Trust, so it should not affect the agreement.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: 6634 Reply with quote

Peter Share wrote:
Does this deal include the locos, or is it just the works ?
Whatever, how will it affect the agreement re 6634 and the SVR, or is it worth looking into buying it into a group on the railway ?

Peter
Regarding this engine, my understanding is it had the work carried out on it originally by SVR volunteers and paid staff on the basis that a boiler would have been forthcoming some considerable time ago. For reasons well recorded elsewhere that has not come to pass and the whole project has been in limbo for some time.

It remains to be seen whether or not JH's ownership of LNWR will now assist in moving things along.

Any question of an SVR group buying it opens up questions of:- loco agreements, long term space for it within the fleet and many more not least of which would be the availability of a boiler.

Or ..........did you have a big spring in mind? Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens to 6634 might depend on how the Waterman Railway Trust is set up, and whether there are any restrictions on selling a Trust asset.

Perhaps the loco could be transferred to the SVR Charitable Trust along with the large prairie boiler earmarked for said loco....Who knows?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see that the railway is taking advice re the future of this still boiler less loco. A situation which needs to be resolved.

The future for the other locos (steam) owned by the same trust looks uncertain & they appear to be dumped with no apparent future plan including 5224,5553,7027.

All appear to be in open storage at Crewe.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A report on another forum indicates that Mr Waterman intends using the proceeds of his recent sale of large scale models to fund the overhaul of the Super D, 5553 and 5224.
Perhaps the situation regarding 6634 at Bridgnorth and its supposed boiler, ex-4115, might become a little clearer soon.
Last we heard the SVR was taking legal advice.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derby4 wrote:
A report on another forum indicates that Mr Waterman intends using the proceeds of his recent sale of large scale models to fund the overhaul of the Super D, 5553 and 5224.
Perhaps the situation regarding 6634 at Bridgnorth and its supposed boiler, ex-4115, might become a little clearer soon.
Last we heard the SVR was taking legal advice.

Err, he has not sold the models yet. The auction is on 16th April.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. Presumably his aspirations ( or the prophecy of Steam Railway) are based on auction estimates.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading the article in Heritage Railway, it said he hoped to base all 4 locos at a single site. I have no idea of the "present situation" regarding 6634, but it looks like lose one or gain three.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Presumably the "6634 situation" is still under legal negotiation.

In an ideal world maybe the Waterman Trust could have gifted 6634 and the spare boiler to the SVR Charitable Trust as a fair deal for the work undertaken on the engine's chassis, and then the Charitable trust could at some time organise completion of the work.

However it looks as though Mr W wants to keep hold of four of his engines, but says he is open to offers for the "Castle".
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