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LMS 2-6-0 42968 spring problems? 19 August 2009
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GWRNorthampton



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: LMS 2-6-0 42968 spring problems? 19 August 2009 Reply with quote

I came up to the Severn Valley today, and was blessed with fantastic weather, the only thing spoiling it was the half-hour delayed train off Arley, headed by the Stanier Mogul, in what was described to me by platform staff as 'spring problems'. 42968 ended up finishing all its duties without any other delays to what I understand. I was just interested if anyone could shed some light on the subject, otherwise, a fantastic day Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From one of our members:- It was a broken spring which was repaired but which together with a lineside fire, caused a delay of about 40 mins at one stage.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Broken spring replaced on shed at Bridgnorth making a late departure of about 35 minutes. Credit to the maintenance staff as it meant that we didn't have to cancel anything
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And thanks from the SMF too!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow a broken spring repaired in 40 mins! Im not very technical or know what it takes to repair but that does sound amazingly quick! Well done to all involved.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big T wrote:
Wow a broken spring repaired in 40 mins!
It's repairing the big one that drives the train that really takes the time. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boldford wrote:
Big T wrote:
Wow a broken spring repaired in 40 mins!
It's repairing the big one that drives the train that really takes the time. :wink:


You're out of date, mate! 12V dc with current pick up on all drivers. The motor's in the tender.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, thanks guys, that explains that Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the loco broke a spring hanger on the pony truck on friday too.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mud child wrote:
the loco broke a spring hanger on the pony truck on friday too.


Seems to be getting through a lot of springs at the moment....
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but Stanier engines did get through springs, even in LMS and BR days, and to be fair, she has been running for some time with several broken and clamped. Sooner or later, they will come apart.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Broken tender spring on 46443 during Saturday Footplate Experience also replaced in about 40 minutes (10 minute delay to service departure). The trick is to be ready and waiting with all the gear to do the job and get the engine on shed ASAP.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have the shed staff been on training courses run by Formula 1 racing teams?!!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First part of the technique is to have advance notice of the requirement and assemble the repair team, parts and equipment prior to locomotive arrival.

Second part of the technique is to check that the securing pins of the broken spring fit the new spring.

Third part of the technique is to get on with it. (But we do seem to be replacing quite a few springs)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember one Member's Day some years ago, on the approach to Bridgnorth the loco was uncoupled and run to one of the pit roads for repair, an 08 being used to bring the stock into the platform. May have been the 8F which had a spring replaced, it did work another train an hour or so later.
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