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hearn_p



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Great news - the Severn Valley Railway Charitable Trust has kindly loaned us a couple of tarpaulins to help protect our coach - Barry Railway 163 - from the worst of the winter weather.

Our thanks go to Hugh McQuade for arranging this. This will make a significant contribution to protecting 163 when we are not working on it during the winter.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Website has been updated
www.thebarrycoach.co.uk
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved to Van 66 thread - apologies

Patrick


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From Barry Railway Carriage Trust Facebook, which has 11 supporting images, comes the below. This will no doubt follow onto the BRCT website

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The weather played a major part. On Saturday (July 19th) it was the intention to re-plank the side of Tool Van 66. This was a little ambitious and our drill wasn't the only thing to stop that happening.

The aim was to start at 10am, however this was after the second of two consecutive nights of thunderstorms. The morning was wet - very wet. The rain kept pouring without let up.

Eventually just before 12 it eased off so off to work we went.

Within about 30 minutes all the old planking from one half of the side had gone. We then set about removing the old screws from, what is still, good condition oak framing.

It was then brushed and vacuumed to get rid of all the debris that had collected. The worst location was at the rear of the sliding door with a good couple of inches of gunk packed tightly.

The process was halted part way through by another heavy downpour. A good time for lunch and a cuppa.

After lunch and the rain had stopped we continued with the task of re-planking Tool Van 66.

Each plank has to have the top cut at the correct angle to fit into place. Our Chairman - Dave, proved to be most proficient at this and so got the job. The first few he did in front of the van but the continued light rain made this almost impossible, causing the saw to clog.

A section of wood was temporarily fitted along the bottom of the van and securely fixed to give a straight line for the bottom of the planks. This worked a treat and we soon found out that the screws were single use only! Does anybody make decent screws anymore?

The planks fitted easily together (unlike the other side) so progress was quite rapid until a thunderstorm passed overhead. Time for another cuppa.

By the time the storm had passed it was getting quite late in the afternoon and the drill was starting to complain. We had to wait a while whilst the battery charged (we had used this one earlier on in the day).

Eventually one last plank had to be customised to fit the remaining gap and have the correct profile applied. Having originally only fixed each plank with 2 screws - in case of having to redo any part of it (we did!) the rest of the screws were then added.

The difference this has made to the look of Tool Van 66 is considerable.

There are plenty of finishing off jobs still to do. The holes have to be filled, rubbed down and painted. The sawn areas have to be painted and a final topcoat still needs to be applied. It is possible to tell that it took over a tin of paint as there are variations in the colour of some of the planks.

We don't yet know when the other half will be done, but all the wood is prepared.

It has been rewarding work, especially as the contrast is so great.

Why not join us and get the satisfaction of being able to say 'I did that'?


Patrick
Wouldn't this have been more appropriately posted on the Van 66 thread?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boldford wrote:
hearn_p wrote:
From Barry Railway Carriage Trust Facebook, which has 11 supporting images, comes the below. This will no doubt follow onto the BRCT website

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The weather played a major part. On Saturday (July 19th) it was the intention to re-plank the side of Tool Van 66. This was a little ambitious and our drill wasn't the only thing to stop that happening.

The aim was to start at 10am, however this was after the second of two consecutive nights of thunderstorms. The morning was wet - very wet. The rain kept pouring without let up.

Eventually just before 12 it eased off so off to work we went.

Within about 30 minutes all the old planking from one half of the side had gone. We then set about removing the old screws from, what is still, good condition oak framing.

It was then brushed and vacuumed to get rid of all the debris that had collected. The worst location was at the rear of the sliding door with a good couple of inches of gunk packed tightly.

The process was halted part way through by another heavy downpour. A good time for lunch and a cuppa.

After lunch and the rain had stopped we continued with the task of re-planking Tool Van 66.

Each plank has to have the top cut at the correct angle to fit into place. Our Chairman - Dave, proved to be most proficient at this and so got the job. The first few he did in front of the van but the continued light rain made this almost impossible, causing the saw to clog.

A section of wood was temporarily fitted along the bottom of the van and securely fixed to give a straight line for the bottom of the planks. This worked a treat and we soon found out that the screws were single use only! Does anybody make decent screws anymore?

The planks fitted easily together (unlike the other side) so progress was quite rapid until a thunderstorm passed overhead. Time for another cuppa.

By the time the storm had passed it was getting quite late in the afternoon and the drill was starting to complain. We had to wait a while whilst the battery charged (we had used this one earlier on in the day).

Eventually one last plank had to be customised to fit the remaining gap and have the correct profile applied. Having originally only fixed each plank with 2 screws - in case of having to redo any part of it (we did!) the rest of the screws were then added.

The difference this has made to the look of Tool Van 66 is considerable.

There are plenty of finishing off jobs still to do. The holes have to be filled, rubbed down and painted. The sawn areas have to be painted and a final topcoat still needs to be applied. It is possible to tell that it took over a tin of paint as there are variations in the colour of some of the planks.

We don't yet know when the other half will be done, but all the wood is prepared.

It has been rewarding work, especially as the contrast is so great.

Why not join us and get the satisfaction of being able to say 'I did that'?


Patrick
Wouldn't this have been more appropriately posted on the Van 66 thread?


Yes.

By the way thank you for the typo alert Boldford, it will be fixed in the next few days when I have a chance.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved to Van 66 thread - apologies

Patrick
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Saturday morning was a washout although the afternoon was sufficiently dry to allow completion (we hope) of the canvas repairs.

The next stage is removing the remaining loose paint from the roof before repainting.


Sunday has been dry and the photo's below show the progress on coach 163.

On the station side of 163 all the previously rubbed down areas have had Danish Oil and aluminium wood primer applied. The next stage will be undercoat and brush filler.

On the river side the first section to receive attention for a number of years has been rubbed down and filled, with Danish Oil applied to the areas that have not been filled.


Navigate Facebook pictures from https://www.facebook.com/BarryRailwayCarriageTrust/photos/pcb.562378997223550/562377160557067/?type=1&theater

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 14th July we met with (sic) the SVR General Manager, Nick Ralls to sign a Loan Agreement between the Barry Railway Carriage Trust and the Severn Valley Railway.

The purpose is to formalise the arrangements between the SVR and BRCT for the presence and use (current and future) of Barry Railway coach 163.

The agreement was signed by Dave Flavell, Chairman of the BRCT and Nick Ralls, SVR General Manager in the new Kidderminster Offices.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Apart from some finishing off tied in with replacing the end guttering, the canvas patch repairs have been completed.

We now have to remove all the loose paint and other debris (mainly broken branches) that have collected on the roof.

A separate item will describe the process still to be followed and why patch repairs have been done.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Over the winter our pictures were very black and white in the nature of what we were doing. Summer is so much more colourful - green, white, brown, silver, grey to name a few.

Leaving the green of the roof and brown on tool van 66, the repainting on 163 goes through various stages.

With some filler to help provide a smother surface for a better paint finish the first picture shows this stage with the wood also having had Danish Oil applied. The next stage is to use Aluminium Wood Primer subject to the weather being warm enough (it doesn't go off if the temperature isn't high enough). On the station side of 163 the next stage has been reached where undercoat is applied.


The next stage will be to use brush filler. This is mixed with whatever paint we have to hand and is used to build up the paint with the aim of eventually getting a smoother finish. Once it has been rubbed down different shades appear and it becomes obvious where more brush filler is required.


Facebook images https://www.facebook.com/BarryRailwayCarriageTrust/photos/pcb.565928590201924/565924750202308/?type=1&theater

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Saturday ended up being the only work day on the coach this weekend. Once again this was due to the weather, however for a different reason this time - wind.

The next stage of painting was reached on each side of the coach. On the platform side (now salmon coloured) brush filler was used to help build up the surface so that it can be sanded down to a smoother finish. This is particularly important on the door which needs a replacement panel as it is quite rough.

Actually doing the painting is always quite difficult with brush filler as it has to be mixed in a separate container and therefore tends to dry more quickly. It is also a very heavy paint. The wind also meant that the paint was' getting away' where it wasn't wanted.

On the river side, which was protected from the worst of the wind, aluminium wood primer was applied. Being slightly cooler it has been left to dry for longer in the hope that the ambient temperature will be high enough this week to dry it properly.


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Dave was back to the roof to do the finishing off with the canvas and found what we thought was probably there.......rot. Obviously we didn't want to find any, but suspected that it existed on this end of the vehicle.

We now have to find out how much there is and develop a plan to fix it. What this means is that the painting of the roof definitely won't happen this year. What a relief we have the tarpaulins to cover the coach this winter.

We already knew that the gutter on the end had to be replaced and the photo's show the condition of the roof with it removed.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Both areas of 163 that are being painted this year received their next coat of paint and more work on the replanked part of 66 was also undertaken. All the screw holes should now be reading for painting when the latest filler has set. Once the first coat of dark grey undercoat is applied the spottiness is much reduced.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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163 is now ready for topcoat on the platform side. Red undercoat has been used as we ran out of maroon. How this affects the tone of the top coat will be seen soon enough.


On the river side it has had the first coat of undercoat and then 2 coats of brush filler. One small section is further behind as the grab handle had to be removed to provide access. This section has only had one coat of brush filler to date.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This years painting on 163 is almost completed. There is just another coat of varnish to apply.

This means that the whole of the station side is back into Barry Railway Carriage Red and a start has been made on the repainting of the river side of the coach.

It may appear a bit haphazard the way in which the painting has been approached but has been decided by what can be reached and how easy the old paint could be removed in the very limited amount of time that Graham has available.

As this won't be the final coat of paint the coach receives before entering service the most important part is to provide protection for the wood.

Note that the coach and scaffold tower have both been moved. This allows access into the dock siding for the likes of 1450 & autocoach, 4566 and the M7.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The coach is now cloaked in its winter woollies, so to speak.

The tarpaulins loaned to us by the Severn Valley Railway Charitable Trust have now been put to use to keep the coach dry for the winter.


The Barry Railway Carriage Trust are very grateful to the SVR Charitable Trust for the loan of these as it will help reduce the impact of the weather over the coming months which in turn will speed up the restoration.

The coach looks very different now and is turning a few heads.

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