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Plato



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:03 am    Post subject: Kidderminster platform canopy. Reply with quote

Whatever happened to the steel work recovered from Wolverhampton Low Level for re-use as part of Kidderminster platform canopy?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did hear many years ago that it was stored somewhere in some undergrowth somewhere on SVR. I also ask what happened to the canopy that was dismantled by Kidderminster Carriage works? I assume it is to be re-erected at Kidderminster station at a later date when Bridgnorth station works has been completed.
In answer to Plato, sorry, I'm as much in the dark as you are about it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldsteamer wrote:
I did hear many years ago that it was stored somewhere in some undergrowth somewhere on SVR. I also ask what happened to the canopy that was dismantled by Kidderminster Carriage works? I assume it is to be re-erected at Kidderminster station at a later date when Bridgnorth station works has been completed.
In answer to Plato, sorry, I'm as much in the dark as you are about it.

I remember someone saying it was stored at a bus garage where they worked, can't remember which tho.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst I appreciate that a canopy is the likely solution, not least on grounds of cost, I have for some time thought that an overall roof (like,say, that originally at Wolverhampton LL which the canopies replaced) would be the best option, if it could be afforded. It would in effect form another carriage shed for stock stabled overnight in the platforms or on the engine lines.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

London Bridge station is being drasitcally updated over the next few years. Part of the plan is for the overall roof at the terminus section of the station(possibly roots in LBSCR) to be dispensed with. I read somewhere that it is being offered foc to any appropriate and interested heritage organisation.

Not a GWR structure but a snip and it would blend in and provide a useful assett for Kidderminster Town

What do others think?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hart_r wrote:

What do others think?


Interesting one. Assuming itís been carefully dismantled and stored, as was the Kingís Cross footbridge, I guess one would need the funds, space and labour to:

Draw it
Obtain permissions (planning and listing?)
Engineers' possessions
H&S statements
Move it
Store it
Sandblast it (lead paint?)
Repair it
Paint it
Dig holes for footings etc
Fit drainage for downpipes
Source and erect necessary scaffolding and lifting equipment etc
Erect and assemble
Source, cut, paint woodwork
Fit woodwork
Fit gutters and downpipes
Install lighting and PA

Others I'm sure could add more.

IMO it will/would be a major project, and I'm not sure where it is in the priorities.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hearn_p wrote:

Interesting one. Assuming itís been carefully dismantled and stored, as was the Kingís Cross footbridge, I guess one would need the funds, space and labour to:

Draw it
Obtain permissions (planning and listing?)
Engineers' possessions
H&S statements
Move it
Store it
Sandblast it (lead paint?)
Repair it
Paint it
Dig holes for footings etc
Fit drainage for downpipes
Source and erect necessary scaffolding and lifting equipment etc
Erect and assemble
Source, cut, paint woodwork
Fit woodwork
Fit gutters and downpipes
Install lighting and PA

Others I'm sure could add more.

IMO it will/would be a major project, and I'm not sure where it is in the priorities.

Patrick
Indeed true Patrick; although much of the above would be needed anyway, for such a brand new roof structure with no historical provenance.

Hasn't re-use of the Kings Cross footbridge been mooted here previously?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Kings Cross footbridge, or "Harry Potter" bridge was a listed structure, and from reading the reports on the Mid-Hants site I think they got some quite generous help from Network Rail, who were anxious for a solution that satisfied the "listed" status criteria for the footbridge and subsequent re-use.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe parts, at least, of the train shed over the terminal platforms at London Bridge, are quite historic, but I donít know if it is listed. Does anyone know?

As for moving and re-erecting it, the people who would have some idea of what could be involved would be the SRPS. They were given the original train shed (admittedly much smaller) from Edinburgh Haymarket and have re-erected it at Boíness, if I recall correctly.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may not be known by the younger generation, but Gerry Carter's original proposal for Kidderminster Station was for two side platforms with a central release road. This would have taken up less space and been a perfect layout for an overall roof, which would, of course, have been much smaller than the one required to cover the current layout.

I think a platform canopy like Bewdley's would be most appropriate for what we have now.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xpc smooth wrote:
It may not be known by the younger generation, but Gerry Carter's original proposal for Kidderminster Station was for two side platforms with a central release road. This would have taken up less space and been a perfect layout for an overall roof, which would, of course, have been much smaller than the one required to cover the current layout. . . .
Which would have also created the opportunity to bring the train nearer to the stop-blocks by having the novelty of a traverser, ŗ la Moor Street, instead of cross-overs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh that would have been nice...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boldford wrote:
xpc smooth wrote:
It may not be known by the younger generation, but Gerry Carter's original proposal for Kidderminster Station was for two side platforms with a central release road. This would have taken up less space and been a perfect layout for an overall roof, which would, of course, have been much smaller than the one required to cover the current layout. . . .
Which would have also created the opportunity to bring the train nearer to the stop-blocks by having the novelty of a traverser, ŗ la Moor Street, instead of cross-overs.


I didn't know B'ham moor street had a traverser?

Edit: found a few pics:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How strange that photo of 6152 was posted, I was only looking at that a few hours ago on the Warwickshire Railway photos site.

http://warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/moorstreet.htm

If you never knew Moor St. more photos can be found on the above link.
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