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Bridgnorth Station redevelopment: 2012 onwards
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Derby4



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be interesting to see whether or not the proposed new building "overpowers" the existing station building. I suppose it depends how far away it is from the existing buildings, and the relative height.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derby4 wrote:
It will be interesting to see whether or not the proposed new building "overpowers" the existing station building. I suppose it depends how far away it is from the existing buildings, and the relative height.


The Talyllyn Railway did this at Wharf Station and the original building is now so insignificant that it might as well not be there
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am inclined to agree with you Michael. Impressive though the modern Talyllyn is, one feels at times that it has sold out to commercialism. It is not the railway it was - it could not be the railway it was.

Understandable and yet sad too.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J-Green wrote:
I am inclined to agree with you Michael. Impressive though the modern Talyllyn is, one feels at times that it has sold out to commercialism. It is not the railway it was - it could not be the railway it was.

Understandable and yet sad too.


Tywyn Wharf is a good example of a how to ruin the character of a railway station. The old station was open and spacious while the new building is oppressive and has narrowed the platform space dramatically, destroying any of the ambience of the old place. A real shame.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I can see of the proposed developments at Bridgnorth as shown in the "The Shareholders' Newsletter Of the SVR" I am not impressed. I know the SVR means different things to different people but I didn't buy shares in it originally so that it could be modernised to be like many other Network Rail stations. I was thinking of buying some more shares but now I'm not so sure. I wonder if these developments will reduce the take-up of the shares? There must be lots of people out there that want to see Hagley Hall running again but there is no guarantee that the money will be spent on the loco. It could instead go towards creating a Bridgnorth Rail Hub.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before we all go off half cock in condemming the building we should ascertain if there has been a complete cockup in the photo montage in the leaflet. The floor plan shows the buildings on the inside of a curve. That means behind platform 2 where the works is now/ The photo montage of the works visitor centre clearly shows platform 1. This would put the visitor centre hanging from an embankment. Clearly that is not sensible. It looks like the leaflet was not properly proof read. Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit I too was wondering if there was sufficient level ground behind platform 1, south of the footbridge, and clean forgot to look the other day. Presumably there is space for the proposed construction.

Maybe everyone should keep an open mind until either the full prospectus becomes available, and which will presumably contain much more detail about the proposals for Bridgnorth, or we attend the October members and shareholders event, where I assume there will be much more information available at Bridgnorth for all to see.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derby4 wrote:
Maybe everyone should keep an open mind until either the full prospectus becomes available, and which will presumably contain much more detail about the proposals for Bridgnorth, or we attend the October members and shareholders event, where I assume there will be much more information available at Bridgnorth for all to see.
A common ploy; by which time it will be too late to correct any mistake.

Before I pass comment can someone in the know please confirm or deny the artists impression on page 6 is a true rendition of what we can expect the new building to look like?
Additionally if anyone can reply authoritatively can they inform the potential investors in the share issue, from what architectural stable was design inspiration drawn?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the discussion elsewhere about customer "spend" rather than sheer numbers, is it right to assume the new building behind platform one is essentially to provide more opportunities for retail sales, ie increasing that elusive "passenger spend" figure?

Do any of the plans for Bridgnorth ( or any other location on the SVR) include more covered accommodation for the running fleet? At present we effectively have a combined works and running shed, such that most of the service fleet live outside. Most of the other larger heritage lines manage to have separate works and running shed buildings.

Do the owners of Sir Keith Park and Nunney Castle know more than we do?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Chitham wrote:
From what I can see of the proposed developments at Bridgnorth as shown in the "The Shareholders' Newsletter Of the SVR" I am not impressed.


Completely agreed. It is almost as if someone has been to view the development at Wolverhampton Low Level recently and though ``yeah, that looks nice, we'll have some of that at Bridgnorth'' - no thank you!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:58 pm    Post subject: Bridgnorth Development Reply with quote

I too am a little concerned at the "proposed" development, insomuch as I was under the impression that Bridgnorth Station is a listed building, yet the picture seems to indicate that no thought has been put into blending the new extension with the old building (never mind whether it's in the right place or not). I have also heard that the signalbox will, eventually, be re-located at that end of the station - has that been borne in mind?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derby4 wrote:


Do any of the plans for Bridgnorth ( or any other location on the SVR) include more covered accommodation for the running fleet? At present we effectively have a combined works and running shed, such that most of the service fleet live outside. Most of the other larger heritage lines manage to have separate works and running shed buildings.



A very good point which does not receive prominence (or even apparently any consideration at all). For a premier league railway such as the SVR this seems strange indeed.
It was rather sobering to think that 7812 spent its first steam running shed night in preservation under cover last weekend at Bodmin. That said Bridgnorth station limits clearly cannot accommodate such a structure which for sound traffic reasons in any case now needs to be at the KDR end of the railway.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The brochure image of the proposed new building behind platform one looks rather like an engine shed, in style at least. At the risk of reducing the "retail space" maybe we can sneak a track down the back of platform one from the static coaches to said new building.....?

Voila, a running shed!

Simples.... Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:24 am    Post subject: Re: Bridgnorth Development Reply with quote

Peter Share wrote:
. . . . . .I have also heard that the signalbox will, eventually, be re-located . . . . .
I believe that has been caped from the current redevelopments as there is no mention in the current paperwork. Oddly. other less essential things seem to remain.


I note how those with authoritative knowledge are, so far, tight lipped and refusing to respond to the critical comments above.

I must ask:-
Is this the new interactive "open" style of management that which was promised?

Is this really the right way to attract those disaffected small shareholders to once again "invest" in their railway to get back their previous ticket entitlement?

Although I'm sure many directors (and those that try to take on that mantle) have seen more, I have seen no more than the ambiguous artists impressions and therefore will not yet comment further than I already have on the architectural style chosen.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its great that the shareholders have seen some information on the developments. As a non shareholder I too look forward to seeing the plans soon.

Whatever had been proposed there are some who would have grumbled. For me my one hope is a decent baby chaning facility as someone with a young family.

I look forward to seeing them and welcome the fact that the railway is trying to raise money for a variety of infrastructure improvements, which at Bridgnorth especially are long overdue.
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