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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:55 pm    Post subject: Coal Supplies Reply with quote

We had all this debate a while back about a new Welsh coal supply.
With the latest development in regards to Scottish supplies maybe a re-think is on the cards? link below

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-22225943
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From 1472 on Nat Pres

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from next week expect less smoke with Welsh coal on trial.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it may have been at the other place; but didn't I read somewhere, somebody suggesting the heritage railway movement should look towards producing fuel itself or taking an interest in such an operation?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incredible that it is more economic to import cheap coal from half-way round the World than mine it at Kellingley, a few miles from Drax power station.
Still, good business for the railways carting the stuff from the docks... I suppose Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you with access, Phil Brown's blog on SVROnline (password protected) blog includes comments on the (satisfactory) use of Ffos-y-Fran coal. But as it's in the protected site I don't know if it can be copied to here, so I've asked.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hearn_p wrote:
For those of you with access, Phil Brown's blog on SVROnline (password protected) blog includes comments on the (satisfactory) use of Ffos-y-Fran coal. But as it's in the protected site I don't know if it can be copied to here, so I've asked.

Patrick


A note has gone out stating that the trial was a success & as a result the SVR will use the welsh coal from now on.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today is PI day if you use the American system of dates (31415) but as there is not much activity on this forum on Saturdays perhaps this may be the time to introduce a much more useful number for those buying coal for the railway.
I don't know whether Welsh coal is bought in tonne (1000 kg) units or ton (2240 lb). Assuming the former, the buyer may want to know how many pounds of coal he or she is getting when ordering a tonne. The conversion factor is 1 kg = 2.20462262 lb to within the weight of half a teaspoonful of light smoke. Thus 1 tonne = 2204.62262 lb and the buyer is being short-changed if a ton (2240 lb) is expected. However the interesting thing (if numbers interest you at all) are the figures that follow 2.20 as they are equivalent to a Pacific and a Prairie coupled together. Not many people know that (or want to)!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What type of coal does the SVR currently use and from where, please?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hearn_p wrote:
What type of coal does the SVR currently use and from where, please?

Patrick
Black coal from under the ground. Ho ho ho!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about imported supplies, but all UK produced coal is from opencast sites. I think the SVR supplies came from Scottish opencast sites until--maybe a couple of years ago--the operating company up there ceased trading, hence the trial and use of the Welsh product.
Maybe we are back on Scottish now?
Hopefully someone will clarify.

I recall asking the driver of one of the Riley 5's taking water at Hereford earlier this year, and he said they were using "some rubbish from up north", make of that what you will!

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