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Robin



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've started a page here

http://www.svrwiki.com/Locomotives_named_after_the_Severn_Valley_Railway

Bit of a 'first draft', especially as I don't have any pictures.

Edit: Also doesn't incorporate some of the additional info above...
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mrmover



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent!

It now just needs expanding with photos - just what a Wiki is all about!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello,
Would it be possible to edit out the name 'Starfish' for the 813 Fund Ballast Wagons?

'Starfish' is a BR Telegraphic code name.

many thanks


Nick

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick813 wrote:
hello,
Would it be possible to edit out the name 'Starfish' for the 813 Fund Ballast Wagons?

'Starfish' is a BR Telegraphic code name.

many thanks


Nick

GWR 813 Fund


Nick. What was the GW telegraphic code for these wagons?
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Robin



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starfish removed as requested.

The excellent 2 volume set "A History of GWR Goods Wagons" suggests they had no telegraphic code. Some P.W. and engineers' vehicles didn't, the tool and riding vans being another example.
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Robin



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham wrote:
I think we could do with standardising the format of the pages as much as possible, with a lead paragraph, Table of Contents, photo and 'See also', 'References' and 'Links' headings all in the correct order.

I was thinking of creating a quick reference info box on every page as well. Something like,
https://www.festipedia.org.uk/wiki/Carriage_100
or
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GWR_2800_Class
Any thoughts on this?

Standardising the layout, definitely. Another thing on Festipedia is that it has a heading on every page "From Festipedia, hosted by the FR Heritage Group". I think it must be a default for the whole Wiki as it's not in the individual page code. Should we have something similar?

The Infobox seems a good idea - presumable it needs templates and so on. The Festipedia loco infobox is probably a better example than the Wikipedia one; reasonably short and more specific to the railway. Maybe we should include a link to the relevant Wikipedia page in the "Links" section for people to find additional information, so 2857 would have a link to "2800 Class on Wikipedia" and so on. Thoughts?

On the subject of improvements, SVR News never published the locomotive mileage records for the years 2005-2012 inclusive. Does anyone know who looks after the records, and if so could they ask them if we could have the missing details?
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Graham



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how they've done that default heading. We've got the SVR logo at the top of every page, but I suppose a heading would still be there if someone Copy & Pasted the text to another web site or forum, unless they edited it out of course.

I don't know how to do a proper MediaWiki template either. Improvising by creating the first infobox as a table, then simply Copy & Pasting that with the text altered to suit each page would work though. External links to Wikipedia sounds good as well.
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Robin



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Graham. From a look at Festipedia, their steam loco infobox needs the following:
    Template:Infobox steam loco
    Template:Infobox
    Module:Infobox
    Module:HtmlBuilder

I think the first is specific to Festipedia, the second is a generic template and the last 2 are modules which a SysOp would need to add if not already there. So probably a question for Dan, do we want to try the proper module/template approach, or just develop a manual table equivalent?
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Danny252



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robin wrote:
So probably a question for Dan, do we want to try the proper module/template approach, or just develop a manual table equivalent?


I guess there's no better way to get someone to do something than by mentioning them by name!

I've gone through and imported the required bits for the FR's Infobox steam loco. The main part to get it looking right was actually the custom CSS code, which can be edited at: http://www.svrwiki.com/MediaWiki:Common.css

For an example of the template in use, see: http://www.svrwiki.com/User:Danny252/InfoboxTest

You should be able to hack the template to create whatever you like: http://www.svrwiki.com/Template:Infobox_steam_loco

Edit: I've also pulled in the navbox/navbar template, also illustrated on InfoboxTest. I'm not sure it's 100% working yet, as the styling seems a little off.
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Robin



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny252 wrote:

I guess there's no better way to get someone to do something than by mentioning them by name!

Ta, my cunning plan worked! Will have a play with the infobox once I've added to the featured article, which I was going to do tonight until I got sidetracked by the history of the Bewdley Turntable.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And for anyone interested, the results of adding the Loco Infobox can be seen on the 2857 page (and a few others): link.

Looks quite professional!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epic fail. I have uploaded http://www.svrwiki.com/File:S_Glendenning_2_280916.jpg but don't know how to get the picture on the D5410 page. Could the wiki elves do it for me please?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Done as requested.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know you've made it when your work gets plagiarised by the official web site. Cool

https://www.facebook.com/svrofficial/posts/1166178386793195

http://www.svrwiki.com/Hampton_Loade_signal_box
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though it doesn't seem to be entirely clear what licence our wiki's content is under, except for images!

Mind, it's quite a leap of faith to assume that no attribution is required, in the absence of a definite statement to that effect...
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