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hunter_i



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While on the question of diversifying passenger numbers, may I suggest looking at the overseas tourist market. Visiting the stately homes is a must see tourist attraction, and a complementary scenario would be a trip through the unspoilt English countryside, visit to an historic market town with civil war castle, and Ironbridge (industrial revolution and the working class lifestyle) . In effect a time travel experience which could cover most of English history in one day.

If some tour operators would be interested in a trial, it would be better done now before any Brexit changes.

Just a suggestion.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.wix.com/support/html5/article/creating-a-multilingual-site-663444

Have a look at something like the above and see if that would help with foreign visitors.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GWSR report a 4% increase in daily passenger numbers to the end of September, with all special events showing increased visitor numbers, with the exception of a "Thomas" event apparently. ( Reason for this not disclosed as such).
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hearn_p wrote:
SVR News said figures had dropped in the summer. The Spring Gala and 40s missed budget, the diesel gala and Peppa Pig exceeded expectations. The reduced rate family pass is said to have increased numbers over the school holiday. The PP is likely to show a 6-7,000 increase from the numbers quoted (if they are like-for-like) and the Finale might turn in bigger numbers than did the Manors day last November. The diesel gala was earlier in the year this year so I'm not sure how the timing issue was accounted for.

In short, a mixed bag.

After several enquiries I still don't know what the 2016 budget was set at.

Patrick
I think there are just 2 more weekends running left until the end of the season. There should be a good estimtate now on what the actual passenger numbers could be for the full year? Can this information be shared on the forum? Also did Hearn_P find out what the 2016 budget was set at?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hearn_p wrote:
No

Patrick
Oh!

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Derby4



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any word from Comberton Towers regarding the 2016 passenger numbers, they must have a good idea given the running season (ex-Santas) is pretty much done.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing as yet.

GM updates now tend to be covered by articles in Express Points. The GM has commented to me that this item will be covered off.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Express Points updates covered Pacific Power and Season Finale events.

It did not include general passenger numbers or income against budgets (per posts above). I don't know if further communications are planned.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just been reading some back issues of SVR news. Michael Draper's articles always contained the latest up to date figures regarding year on year passenger numbers and income and expenditure. The monthly board meetings must have this information as part of the management accounts so I wouldn't think it would be too difficult to pass this on. Perhaps it is now considered sensitive information but I can't really see why.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

terry-moore wrote:
Just been reading some back issues of SVR news. Michael Draper's articles always contained the latest up to date figures regarding year on year passenger numbers and income and expenditure. The monthly board meetings must have this information as part of the management accounts so I wouldn't think it would be too difficult to pass this on. Perhaps it is now considered sensitive information but I can't really see why.

Suppose it depends on whether the numbers are going up, or down.....!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is Reg's four penn'th!

I would have thought each and every plc is expected to very regularly inform shareholders on progress. Performance measures, such as, share price, P/E, yield, etc, should be and are readily available.

For the SVR perhaps other measures such as annual passenger numbers and turnover may best satisfy shareholder desire for assessing the state of the business? If shareholders demand then is the plc not duty bound to provide this data?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Divington_R wrote:
Here is Reg's four penn'th!

I would have thought each and every plc is expected to very regularly inform shareholders on progress. Performance measures, such as, share price, P/E, yield, etc, should be and are readily available.

For the SVR perhaps other measures such as annual passenger numbers and turnover may best satisfy shareholder desire for assessing the state of the business? If shareholders demand then is the plc not duty bound to provide this data?

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Limited companies only have to file Annual Reports and Accounts. There is no obligation on them to make further information available.

However, many do, making quarterly or half yearly reports.

Share prices, p/e ratios, yields and the like are NOT declared by the companies themselves - they are analytical data given out by the market makers. In the case of the SVR when there is virtually no market in the shares and definitely no dividend, these three indices are meaningless.

At the end of the day it is up to the Board of Directors whether they release information about passenger numbers - either directly or through the GM. There is no obligation in the Companies Act to include this in the Annual Report and Accounts.

Being cynical, one could say that this is perhaps another example of the SVR keeping as many stakeholders as possible in the dark as possible.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The annual accounts for the PLC include the passenger numbers in the Chairman's Statement, as well as all the necessary financial information. Anyone can download a copy from the Companies House website.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/01046274/filing-history
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SVR News 169 refers to being on target for an increase in passenger numbers this year, but gives no numbers or budget.

Patrick

P.S. Some detective work, for comparison. I calculate the extra 2016 v 2015 from the revised Autumn galas to be approx. 8,639

2016 Pacific Power (5 days) 15,267
End of Season finale 2,571
Total 2016 17,838

2015 ASG (4 days) 7,300
One standard midweek September day, say 500 (to make it up to 5 days
Manor 50 1,399
Approx. total 9,199

The total passengers in 2015 was 204,842, so anything above 213,481 would give passenger growth beyond that generated by the Pacific Power/Season Finale boost to numbers.

I stand to be corrected on the above.
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