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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:52 pm    Post subject: Class 142 Pacers going for scrap Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31650705

If they are going to be scrapped what's the chance that one or two will end up on the valley?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do have good vision from the seats.

They are at their best on welded rail and ride badly on jointed rail. Their 'miles per technical casualty' is lower than Sprinter and other stock, they are more difficult to maintain. Their heating doesn't work well. Some are 2+3 seating, which we don't have on the SVR, and their low capacity (48 seated), one door per vehicle each side and lack of a guards van wouldn't in my view mean they are very suitable, should you want more DMUs.

Who knows what the position will be though at 31/12/19?

Patrick

EDIT: and lack of disabled provision
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do rather enjoy this quote in the article:

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Resembling the body of a bus with train wheels bolted on


I'd have thought it was quite a stretch to claim that's not what they actually are!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The next thing will be someone wanting some Vivarail D trains for the Valley. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:23 pm    Post subject: Pacers Reply with quote

I'm sure that if Boldford sets up a fund, someone will contribute !!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ideal perhaps on the post 1980's theme heritage railway elsewhere which strangely nobody has set up yet. I wonder why?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boldford wrote:
The next thing will be someone wanting some Vivarail D trains for the Valley. Rolling Eyes


Just the thing for London Transport fans when we have a visiting pannier in that strange maroon livery. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Pacers going for scrap Reply with quote

Stato wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31650705

If they are going to be scrapped what's the chance that one or two will end up on the valley?
IIRC were they not used some time back on the western painted in choc & cream livery and name changed from pacer to skipper?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:24 am    Post subject: Re: Pacers going for scrap Reply with quote

Stato wrote:
Stato wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31650705

If they are going to be scrapped what's the chance that one or two will end up on the valley?
IIRC were they not used some time back on the western painted in choc & cream livery and name changed from pacer to skipper?


Found a photo online:-

http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/uploads/7/6/8/3/7683812/2399667_orig.jpg
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: Pacers going for scrap Reply with quote

Stato wrote:
Stato wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31650705

If they are going to be scrapped what's the chance that one or two will end up on the valley?
IIRC were they not used some time back on the western painted in choc & cream livery and name changed from pacer to skipper?


Yes and they didn't go down well at all in Cornwall on the branches, being "replaced" after only a few years by older Bubblecars transferred from Tyesley to Laira!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:44 pm    Post subject: Pacer Fan club Reply with quote

Pacers glory !

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=railway+pacers+fan+club&biw=1920&bih=910&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=AAnzVOnYA6at7Aadh4A4&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg

Just think about, 2020 Pacer Spring Gala Wink

Sorry,I will get my coat Laughing

MARTIN Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a thought for anyone with deep pockets, the ex Arriva Trains Wales class 121 bubblecar is up for sale. Far more suitable than a Pacer. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Pacer Fan club Reply with quote

45002 wrote:
Pacers glory !

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=railway+pacers+fan+club&biw=1920&bih=910&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=AAnzVOnYA6at7Aadh4A4&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg

Just think about, 2020 Pacer Spring Gala Wink

Sorry,I will get my coat Laughing

MARTIN Shocked
Paint 'em all in choc & cream colours for the 'Skipper' Spring gala. Mind blowing Laughing
Sorry, i'll get my coat as well. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inspector Biffo wrote:
Just a thought for anyone with deep pockets, the ex Arriva Trains Wales class 121 bubblecar is up for sale. Far more suitable than a Pacer. Wink


Personally I think one of those would be great for the SVR.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Pacers going for scrap Reply with quote

sharpo wrote:
Stato wrote:
Stato wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31650705

If they are going to be scrapped what's the chance that one or two will end up on the valley?
IIRC were they not used some time back on the western painted in choc & cream livery and name changed from pacer to skipper?


Found a photo online:-

http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/uploads/7/6/8/3/7683812/2399667_orig.jpg


Although a Cornwall Railway Society picture, the location may be at the junction of the Exmouth Branch with the main line just to the east of Exeter Central station. The signals are certainly those strange ones that many non-GWR lines had. Very Happy
We went by Pacer/Skipper from Exmouth to Exeter and back in January so they are still in service in the South West. The ride was good but the branch may have been relaid with continuously welded rail. Surprisingly, some trains from Exmouth run through Exeter to Barnstaple or Paignton.
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