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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Pacers going for scrap Reply with quote

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sharpo wrote:
Stato wrote:
Stato wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31650705

If they are going to be scrapped what's the chance that one or two will end up on the valley?
IIRC were they not used some time back on the western painted in choc & cream livery and name changed from pacer to skipper?


Found a photo online:-

http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/uploads/7/6/8/3/7683812/2399667_orig.jpg


Although a Cornwall Railway Society picture, the location may be at the junction of the Exmouth Branch with the main line just to the east of Exeter Central station. The signals are certainly those strange ones that many non-GWR lines had. Very Happy
We went by Pacer/Skipper from Exmouth to Exeter and back in January so they are still in service in the South West. The ride was good but the branch may have been relaid with continuously welded rail. Surprisingly, some trains from Exmouth run through Exeter to Barnstaple or Paignton.


Sorry, thought I'd added the caption, but it went missing - Exmouth it was!! Probably hit preview then forgot submit.

"A class 142 in the attractive chocolate and cream livery awaits its next turn of duty Exmouth Junction. Copyright David Tozer"
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you want to preserve one as an example of how not to build a railway vehicle. If so stick it on a plinth to laugh at. I for one would be ultra disapointed to have one enter traffic
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Llangollen have one (class 141).

Don't see the harm myself.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManorFan wrote:
The Llangollen have one (class 141).

Don't see the harm myself.
How often do they use it?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stato wrote:
ManorFan wrote:
The Llangollen have one (class 141).

Don't see the harm myself.
How often do they use it?


Not very often, It isn't even based there! It was acquired in 2001, restored by 2007 and then ran for the first time in preservation at the Midland Railway Centre and remained there till 2010 when it went on loan to the Weardale Railway staying there till 2012 after which it was returned to the MRC via a gala appearance at the Llangollen and short 2 month stay there (which I believe was the only time it has ever worked on the line). It then returned to the MRC until December 2013 when it made a 2 month visit back to the Weardale and then it in January 2014, was back to the MRC where it is still at to this day.


OPERATIONAL HISTORY IN PRESERVATION
2007-2010 Midland Railway
2010- May 2012 Weardale Railway
May 2012-July 2012 - Llangollen Railway
July 2012-Nov 2013 Midland Railway
Dec 2013-Jan 2014 Weardale Railway
January 2014 - Midland Railway

So to answer the original question - Not a lot Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P Thornhill wrote:
Stato wrote:
ManorFan wrote:
The Llangollen have one (class 141).

Don't see the harm myself.
How often do they use it?


Not very often, It isn't even based there! It was acquired in 2001, restored by 2007 and then ran for the first time in preservation at the Midland Railway Centre and remained there till 2010 when it went on loan to the Weardale Railway staying there till 2012 after which it was returned to the MRC via a gala appearance at the Llangollen and short 2 month stay there (which I believe was the only time it has ever worked on the line). It then returned to the MRC until December 2013 when it made a 2 month visit back to the Weardale and then it in January 2014, was back to the MRC where it is still at to this day.


OPERATIONAL HISTORY IN PRESERVATION
2007-2010 Midland Railway
2010- May 2012 Weardale Railway
May 2012-July 2012 - Llangollen Railway
July 2012-Nov 2013 Midland Railway
Dec 2013-Jan 2014 Weardale Railway
January 2014 - Midland Railway

So to answer the original question - Not a lot Laughing


Yeah - I don't recall actually stating that the Llangollen have one and use it. The post where I DIDN'T state this was even quoted.

Besides which, granted it hasn't really been used by the Llangollen - hardly suggests that it hasn't been used AT ALL, does it. And one would presume that, since they asked for it, those railways WANTED it, wouldn't it?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah - I don't recall actually stating that the Llangollen have one and use it. The post where I DIDN'T state this was even quoted.


What? You clearly stated they have one, and the question was about whether they use it, which wasn't something you commented on at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny252 wrote:
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Yeah - I don't recall actually stating that the Llangollen have one and use it. The post where I DIDN'T state this was even quoted.


What? You clearly stated they have one, and the question was about whether they use it, which wasn't something you commented on at all.


I'm also lost - you DID say they had one and the question I was answering was Statos. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:33 pm    Post subject: Pacer Preservation Society Reply with quote

http://www.pacerpreservationsociety.co.uk/

https://www.facebook.com/PacerPreservationSociety

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Pacer Preservation Society Reply with quote

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http://www.pacerpreservationsociety.co.uk/
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thanks Martin. I'm confused now.
Their latest news talks about refurbishing & keeping pacers running after 2020! http://www.pacerpreservationsociety.co.uk/news--events
So are they going for scrap or not?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:45 pm    Post subject: Class 144 Evolution Reply with quote

Stato wrote:
45002 wrote:
http://www.pacerpreservationsociety.co.uk/
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thanks Martin. I'm confused now.
Their latest news talks about refurbishing & keeping pacers running after 2020! http://www.pacerpreservationsociety.co.uk/news--events
So are they going for scrap or not?


And me Shocked

Until I read this http://www.porterbrook.co.uk/brochure/14xdmu/index.html

Page 9 onwards.

http://www.railtechnologymagazine.com/Inbox/upgraded-pacers-for-use-past-2020-on-track-for-april-launch-

Class 144 Evolution.

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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 11:41 am    Post subject: Another group Reply with quote

Another group.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Class-142-Newbuild-Group/1403330086570268

You don't need a face book account to view wink:

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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone really really thinks the Pacers are worthy of preservation then have a look at the recent programme with Nick Hewer and Margaret Mountford.

You can go via the BBC iplayer or the programme website, and it is only available for the next six days.

The programme was called "Nick & Margaret: The Trouble with Our Trains" and the piece starts at 25 minutes in.

...It's 1985 and British Leyland have some spare Leyland National bus bodies, so marry them with the underframes of some redundant high speed freight wagons, add and engine, etc, and hey presto the Pacer is born!

No thanks....
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