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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:21 pm    Post subject: Loco overhaul backlog Reply with quote

It has been recognised that some SVR locos will be waiting a very long time for their next overhaul. It appears that the Bodmin people have offered to overhaul No.7808 Cookham Manor for the Great Western Society in exchange for a long period of use on their own line. Might this type of arrangement, or various variations on the theme, not be worth consideration by other owning groups?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Under the current loco agreement, it is for the Severn Valley Railway to overhaul the locos at the SVR's expense, not the owner's or owning group's. The owner is unlikely to have the resources to the fund the overhaul by another railway, and there is little incentive for the SVR to fund it and see the engine used somewhere else when completed.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LMS2968 wrote:
Under the current loco agreement, it is for the Severn Valley Railway to overhaul the locos at the SVR's expense, not the owner's or owning group's. The owner is unlikely to have the resources to the fund the overhaul by another railway, and there is little incentive for the SVR to fund it and see the engine used somewhere else when completed.


Not all locomotives.
We are overhauling 813 at our own expense.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But equally, aren't most locomotives supported by active groups undergoing overhaul, rather than waiting? I thought that the majority of locomotives on the long term waiting list were those where the SVR was paying for the overhaul.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LMS2968 wrote:
Under the current loco agreement, it is for the Severn Valley Railway to overhaul the locos at the SVR's expense, not the owner's or owning group's. The owner is unlikely to have the resources to the fund the overhaul by another railway, and there is little incentive for the SVR to fund it and see the engine used somewhere else when completed.


As I understand it, the overhaul would be paid for, and carried out, by the Bodmin people not the owner, the GWS. There is a benefit for both parties in that the Bodmin Railway would have sole use of Cookham Manor for an agreed part of the 10 year ticket and the GWS would have the rest as recompense for Bodmin's use of its engine.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny252 wrote:
But equally, aren't most locomotives supported by active groups undergoing overhaul, rather than waiting? I thought that the majority of locomotives on the long term waiting list were those where the SVR was paying for the overhaul.


An arrangement of the type being considered for Cookham Manor enables the owner to have a loco overhauled and funded by another party but gives the owner some running time with its engine for free. It speeds things up because the loco has effectively jumped the overhaul queue.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Advice to Bodmin: Don't offer to overhaul the bottom end while somebody else does the boiler... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWVR have had similar agreements with regards to their black five 45212. The first was with an individual with ties to the North Yorkshire Moors Railway. At the end of this agreement, a further one was made with Ian Riley who will have the right to use the engine whilst KWVR will have use of it for agreed periods.
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