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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:21 pm    Post subject: Foley Park Sugar Beet Sidings: Possible Goods Shed. Reply with quote

On page 25 of the latest SVR News the p-way notes mention clearing the former sugar beet sidings area of vegetation to prepare the area for surveying for a possible goods shed.
Not come across this possible project before, does anyone have any further information?
How would this fit in with a future halt or station on this site, if that is ever on the radar?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not come across this possible project before

You're not looking in the right place then. Wink
http://www.svrwiki.com/Wagon_Review_Group
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The site at Bewdley Triangle is no longer available, and current thoughts centre on the site of the GWR sidings adjacent to the former BSC works at Foley Park

I think the drawings have been produced, although I haven't seen them yet, and I think the plan is for a three road wagon shed at the Stourport Road end plus a loop and PW storage area at the canal end with road access from the new housing estate.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original halt was on the other side of the line to the proposed sidings wasn't it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon G wrote:
The original halt was on the other side of the line to the proposed sidings wasn't it?

IIRC the later halt was on the opposite side but the original one was on the same side as the sidings.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KJEvans wrote:
Simon G wrote:
The original halt was on the other side of the line to the proposed sidings wasn't it?

IIRC the later halt was on the opposite side but the original one was on the same side as the sidings.


I didn't realise you're old enough to remember that, Kieren!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who are in this review group?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the update.

Obvious comment is that it will need to be secure, but so would have been covered accommodation on the old Stourport line.

Hope it comes to fruition.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure Richard Gunning, Steve Peplow and Pat Goss, amongst others, are in the group.
It's quite a small group at the moment while things are still at the planning stage. I think the idea is for the group to become a part of the Charitable Trust and expand membership soon.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: Sugar Beet Sidings: Possible Goods Shed. Reply with quote

Derby4 wrote:
On page 25 of the latest SVR News the p-way notes mention clearing the former sugar beet sidings area of vegetation to prepare the area for surveying for a possible goods shed.
Not come across this possible project before, does anyone have any further information?
How would this fit in with a future halt or station on this site, if that is ever on the radar?


A far better use of the site than a halt.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or (and I know this is an utterly mad idea), we might be able to put in both sidings and a halt.

But, of course, such an arrangement would never fit on the site.

(Although I must say I don't know if the railway boundary has moved inwards over the years, like it has nearer to Kidderminster station, making the site somewhat less spacious)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually storage for the goods vehicles is an excellent idea, as is utilising the space there before some bright spark decides to campaign for a park & ride or some such facility.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How accurate are the plans from a couple of years ago for the redevelopment of the sugar beet site?

http://npa.wyreforestdc.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs/00116717.pdf

The phase 1 boundary appears to take at least half of the old siding area for the halt and platform - but will that ever be built? If it was, there could still be room for a shed containing a few sidings accessed from the Kidderminster end.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I recall there was a previous detailed application for Lottery funding for a wagon storage shed on the Stourport line. I believe this was not successful because a lack of educational purpose, notwithstanding proximity to the historic goods shed at Bewdley station.

However with the support of the Charitable Trust hopefully sources of funding will be available.

Some recent developments in wagon storage on other Heritage Railways may be of interest. The Ffestiniog is building a large shed for its several hundred slate wagons, which was described as costing one hundred thousand pounds (need to scroll down the link below to the entry for "Wagon Tracks Shed Progress March 2016").

http://ffestiniograilway.org.uk/news_events

At the other end of the size scale the Mountsorrel & Rothley Railway have built a small wagon shed for representative wagons from the local quarry works, as part of their heritage centre development. It is of interest that substantial funding for this project was obtained locally.

http://heritage-centre.co.uk/category/project-updates/

That alternate funding model suggests two possible options for the SVR - A new lottery funding application for wagon repairs at Bewdley based say on preservation of historic skills, and as a more extreme suggestion - a crowdfunding approach nationally for preservation of the largest collection of historic goods vehicles in the country.

Just a thought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowdfunding
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would the planned wagon shed include restoration facilities?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, the proposed building at Foley Park site will just be for storage.
There is another related longer term plan to build a wagon repair workshop at Bewdley next to the existing carriage workshop, probably with a shared woodworking shop in between. This will involve some track relaying in Bewdley goods yard and possibly some other buildings being altered or moved as well, so won't happen for a while yet.
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