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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:05 pm    Post subject: Belmond Northern Belle Maintenance Base Reply with quote

Web Admin note: Continued from http://forum.svra.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3859
PJ January 2017

From the SVRLive website:

February 2nd 2017
I am very pleased to announce that SVR and the Belmond Northern Belle fine dining train which regularly operates on the mainline, (currently stabled at Crewe) have entered into a 10-year agreement to stable the set on the Railway. This agreement has been the result of over six months planning and consideration.

The rake of 11 operational carriages and two spare vehicles will be housed at Kidderminster on Carriage Siding 1. A small compound at the North end of the Kidderminster car park will provide space for Belmond Northern Belle containers and office accommodation for their staff.

Belmond Northern Belle’s operation will complement that of the SVR and they will make extensive use of our main line connection at Kidderminster.

In principle, a usual day for the Belmond Northern Belle set will be as follows:
# Following its mainline trip and return to the SVR, the train will enter the SVR mainly late at night and be stabled back on Carriage Siding 1 before our services begin in the morning.

# The set will be platformed after SVR daily services end, so that loading of the Belmond Northern Belle train can take place.

# An hour before its mainline departure time the set will have DRS locomotives attached and will move to the exchange ready for departure. This will mainly occur before our services start.

The Belmond Northern Belle operation will require the SVR to provide signalmen, 09 drivers and shunters available for working anti-social hours. This will not be a burden on working members as these operations will be covered by paid staff. The costings of these positions have been considered and included in the budget for hosting Northern Belle.

This partnership will provide many opportunities for the Railway and Belmond Northern Belle, and importantly for the SVR, another income stream that will support further investment in the Railway. It is our intention that the SVR will provide cleaning and maintenance services which are currently being discussed.

Over the coming weeks there will be further NBI’s which will detail the operation, cleaning and maintenance of the Belmond Northern Belle, how Kidderminster yard will be managed and adverts for operational paid positions to cover night time operation.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Video of the train at Old Hill as it headed for the SVR earlier today, then the 2 locos head back up as they return to Crewe.

https://youtu.be/RokSSIImsUg
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great news though this will mean a lot of shunting at the end of the day when it is being used the next day. Will the SVR use this money to extend Kidderminster Town Station Platform?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....and for those of you not interested in YouTube, 4 photos cropped from the video filmed at Old Hill. I know they haven't got the quality of proper photos but still worth posting here.

It's certainly good news for me that the stock is now based at the SVR as it should be a few more trains to film "up the Dark Side" and of course more revenue for the Railway.








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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great video S~harpo
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GWR5764PT wrote:
Great news though this will mean a lot of shunting at the end of the day when it is being used the next day. Will the SVR use this money to extend Kidderminster Town Station Platform?
Extension will be a little difficult and wont help shunting into CS1. I dont think we would want to impinge on the concourse and at the other end there is the road crossing which is used to coal locomotives. . The actual pinch point is with the loco right up against the buffers in P1 is the last coach clear of the track circuit with 11 on. I know its OK with 9 mk1 but we are talking mk3s so could be tight. However even if it is not in the shunt to CS1 could be authorised by the bobby with a verbal instruction reinforced with flag / lamp. I have given RA on a long service train when the loco was over the track circuit. We were instructed to pass the platform starter at danger under the authorisation of a yellow flag but obey all other signals. There should be no need to split the rake
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is CS1? Is it the siding between the shed and the running line or the siding between the shed and the Harriers Stadium?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrmover wrote:
Which is CS1? Is it the siding between the shed and the running line or the siding between the shed and the Harriers Stadium?
Shed and running line. There are numbers on the shed above each road. .

As I said CS1 is next to the running line. CS2 & 3 one side of the firewall. CS4 & 5 the other side of the firewall. CS6 is farthest from the running line, the wash line, and abuts the Harriers
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

threelinkdave wrote:
mrmover wrote:
Which is CS1? Is it the siding between the shed and the running line or the siding between the shed and the Harriers Stadium?
Shed and running line. There are numbers on the shed above each road. .

As I said CS1 is next to the running line. CS2 & 3 one side of the firewall. CS4 & 5 the other side of the firewall. CS6 is farthest from the running line, the wash line, and abuts the Harriers


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

threelinkdave wrote:
GWR5764PT wrote:
Great news though this will mean a lot of shunting at the end of the day when it is being used the next day. Will the SVR use this money to extend Kidderminster Town Station Platform?
Extension will be a little difficult and wont help shunting into CS1. I dont think we would want to impinge on the concourse and at the other end there is the road crossing which is used to coal locomotives. . The actual pinch point is with the loco right up against the buffers in P1 is the last coach clear of the track circuit with 11 on. I know its OK with 9 mk1 but we are talking mk3s so could be tight. However even if it is not in the shunt to CS1 could be authorised by the bobby with a verbal instruction reinforced with flag / lamp. I have given RA on a long service train when the loco was over the track circuit. We were instructed to pass the platform starter at danger under the authorisation of a yellow flag but obey all other signals. There should be no need to split the rake


What I meant was there was a plan originally for the Kidderminster Town Station PLatforms to run up to the barrow crossing, they even had a twin signal bracket.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I ask someone to identify the coach numbers/names and type designations please?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a list here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belmond_Northern_Belle
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:40 pm    Post subject: Northern Belle Reply with quote

Paul, all vehicles āre listed, in detail, on Wikipaedia.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent, many thanks to both Graham and Porter_s.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little searching on the Pullman web site reveals the train is out on business 12 February. Starts from Coventry at 1pm if I have the facts right!


My link is https://www.belmond.com/northern-belle-train/journeys/4_194386?date=12%20Feb%202017&adults=2
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