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The 12.30 off Kidder today: 10 June 2017

 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:51 pm    Post subject: The 12.30 off Kidder today: 10 June 2017 Reply with quote

Called in Kidder Museum today and noticed an 08 by the buffers which had been uncoupled from the stock for the 12.30 and the loco for the train taking water. It seemed a bit odd, was it a set change or some other bit of juggling to get the obbo on the train.

It made me wonder if the loco had been uncoupled outside the station and the shunter attached to the obbo had brought it in?

I remember an 08 bringing a train into Bridgnorth once, after the loco had been uncoupled, many years ago.

The loco list shows it as C7, then I looked at traffic notice for today - but it links to Sunday 11th, not today.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was on the 12.30, and the 08 had been standing at the opposite platform for over an hour, an obbo coupled at the Bridgnorth end. About 12.15ish 2857 rolled in light engine and took water, the 08 departed propelling the obbo. A few minutes later, the 08 reappeared drawing the service train with the obbo in between.

I assume that 2857 was uncoupled from its train in the loop, allowing the 08 / obbo to drop on to it so that the obbo was at the trailing end on departure
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LMS2968 wrote:
I was on the 12.30, and the 08 had been standing at the opposite platform for over an hour, an obbo coupled at the Bridgnorth end. About 12.15ish 2857 rolled in light engine and took water, the 08 departed propelling the obbo. A few minutes later, the 08 reappeared drawing the service train with the obbo in between.

I assume that 2857 was uncoupled from its train in the loop, allowing the 08 / obbo to drop on to it so that the obbo was at the trailing end on departure

Thanks, confirmed my suspicions then. That was how it looked, with people walking along the platform as if they'd just got off the train.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meet the Locos described BN1 as C(7)/C(7)+80972/C(7), so the loco swap was presumably used to attach the obbo after the first leg as described.

The afternoon was rather more mundane. I was on BN1 leg 3, the 2.35 back out of Bridgnorth with the obbo at the Kidderminster end. When it left at 4.15, the obbo stayed behind and was collected by the Clayton.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will have to excuse my ignorance, but what's meant by "obbo" ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

geoffsvr wrote:
You will have to excuse my ignorance, but what's meant by "obbo" ?
Shorthand for Observation saloon, an additional carriage added to one end of a carriage set for special parties etc. The SVR Wiki has more details:

http://www.svrwiki.com/GWR_80969_Inspection_Saloon
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you! Is this term peculiar to the SVR or is it a generic reference to all such vehicles?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

geoffsvr wrote:
Thank you! Is this term peculiar to the SVR or is it a generic reference to all such vehicles?


They were actually built at Swindon (by BR to a GWR design) as Inspection Saloons for Area Managers. W80972W for instance was allocated to the Shrewsbury Area Manager.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

geoffsvr wrote:
You will have to excuse my ignorance, but what's meant by "obbo" ?

Just out of curiousity I did a search on this forum for "obbo" and the word is used quite often. The oldest post appears to be from 2007:-

http://forum.svra.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=614&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=obbo&start=08
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geoffsvr wrote:
Thank you! Is this term peculiar to the SVR or is it a generic reference to all such vehicles?


Searching around online, it is occasionally used elsewhere (also "Obo"), but SVR-related sites are by far the majority of results for the term!

(That is, once you take out results for the journalist Charles Onyango-Obbo, who has written many news articles on railways...)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny252 wrote:
geoffsvr wrote:
Thank you! Is this term peculiar to the SVR or is it a generic reference to all such vehicles?


Searching around online, it is occasionally used elsewhere (also "Obo"), but SVR-related sites are by far the majority of results for the term!

(That is, once you take out results for the journalist Charles Onyango-Obbo, who has written many news articles on railways...)


According to an online dictionary "obbo" is Police slang for observation. At one point the there were a lot of policemen volunteering on the railway so that is probably how it transferred over.

I recall a day in the distant past when the railway was worked almost entirely by policemen.

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