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GWR 4-6-0 7819 Hinton Manor
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KHARDS



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:57 pm    Post subject: GWR 4-6-0 7819 Hinton Manor Reply with quote

is this due to be cosmetically restored for highley?
what is the state with the owning group (funds/plans etc)?
most of the content for highley has now been painted so is hinton due the same.

lovely engine. imagine the SVR with THREE operational Manors!
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creese_m



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 7819 Reply with quote

KHARDS wrote:
is this due to be cosmetically restored for highley?
what is the state with the owning group (funds/plans etc)?
most of the content for highley has now been painted so is hinton due the same.

lovely engine. imagine the SVR with THREE operational Manors!


Yes - see previous threads

owned by the SVR rolling stock trust (I believe)

How deep is your pocket to start the ball rolling ?

Martin
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KHARDS



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry, had a look and couldnt see Hinton mentioned anywhere. Just wondered if overhaul was going to start or if it was being put in the museum.

Havent really heard anything from the group in regards to fundraising/plans etc. I thought it was now owned by the Wolverhampton branch of the SVR,

im probably at least 250k short unfortunately!
(please let it be in BR black again. unlikely but i thought it looked great)
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hassell_a



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Wolves SVRA used to have a major interest in the engine, but it was transferred/sold to the rolling stock trust a year or 2 back.

http://www.svr-rollingstocktrust.org.uk/2.html
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KHARDS



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has fundraising for this engine begun? The rolling stock trust have been quiet in regards to 7819 since tey gained control.

Not being critical. Just its a favourite of mine.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure how much stock the rolling stock trust actually has interests in, but it is probably fair to say that with one, soon to be two manors in traffic already, Hinton Manor is a lower priority aat the moment, afterall, if we were to have all three in traffic, we would be accused buy some of being boring, and lacking variety, you can't please everyone, but this does seem like a sensible approach.
As for my personal view? Well, you can't have too much of a good thing!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few years ago 3 SVR ex-GWR engines needed 5ft 8 driving tyres iminantly and a batch was brought from abroad (South Africa ?) along with bogie and tender tyres and tyres for other railways - 7822 driving wheels tyres were in the same batch.

The 3 SVR engines were 7812, 7819 & 7325. Only two sets were bought - one for 7812 which have been fitted and one set for 7325, a set wasn't bought for 7819. The unfitted tyres can be seen around the railway - I think some are by the back of the boiler shop.

Read into that what you will...

Stephen
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

burnettsj wrote:
A few years ago 3 SVR ex-GWR engines needed 5ft 8 driving tyres iminantly and a batch was brought from abroad (South Africa ?) along with bogie and tender tyres and tyres for other railways - 7822 driving wheels tyres were in the same batch.

The 3 SVR engines were 7812, 7819 & 7325. Only two sets were bought - one for 7812 which have been fitted and one set for 7325, a set wasn't bought for 7819. The unfitted tyres can be seen around the railway - I think some are by the back of the boiler shop.

Read into that what you will...

Stephen


I'll read nothing into that whatsoever, other than the the Erlestoke Manor Fund and GW (SVR) Association secured tyres for their engines.
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KHARDS



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That tyre purchase occured before Hinton changed hands didnt it? thus it is of little relevance as a reflection of future plans....
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mick_wilson



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But which of 7325 and 7819 is likely to be renovated first? If, perchance, 7819 gets to be done before 7325 would another set of tyres be bought or would the existing ones be used? Of course: Subject to appropriate exchange of beer coupons.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recall reading that when 7325 gets overhauled it will be paired with the wheelsets from 4156 (scrapped Bury 1980) and the current wheels sold onto Betton Grange 6880 . I presume therefore that 4156's wheelsets are thicker tyred

In which case there may be a set for 7819

There is a donation from Me for the 7819 overhaul when it gets going , but please could we have unlined black to start and I'll get the early BR Crests !

Martin
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KHARDS



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember reading the SVR (or some group within it) had 4156s wheelsets.
Be good to see the SVR rolling stock trust make some declaration on the loco's future and its plans.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KHARDS wrote:
Remember reading the SVR (or some group within it) had 4156s wheelsets.
Be good to see the SVR rolling stock trust make some declaration on the loco's future and its plans.


I paid a (then) handsome donation out of my (then) meagre salary to buy 7819 out of Barry - unfortunately it seems a cinderella on the SVR - maybe it's because the editor/chairman and the last but one GM are diehard LMS fans and hate all things GWR
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That why the works has produced 5164 and 4566 and will finish. 7812. Very LMS.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its swings and round abouts.
not long ago the only western engines running were panniers.
now its time for the GW locos to go through the works. in a few years we will be back to a more midland feel.
regardless of which side you bat on the important thing is steam traction being available for the valley.
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