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LNER A1 4-6-2 60163 Tornado
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Joe2027



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: LNER A1 4-6-2 60163 Tornado Reply with quote

I've just noticed on the BBC news website that a newly built A1 pacific is nearly complete. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7238506.stm

It's going to be tested on the GCR, in April then on NR tracks in the summer.

Something to go over to the GCR, my second favourite preserved railway.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was announced here:
http://www.a1steam.com/update.html
about two weeks ago. Also covered in Steam Railway.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Launch is now delayed until September and trip to GCR initially been cancelled for time being if i've read stories correctly!
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which has nothing to do with the SVR. Try Nat Pres; far more appropriate.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats special about Tornado anyway?
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Tornado Reply with quote

Joe2027 wrote:
GCR, my second favourite preserved railway.
you do not say but I hope your 1st favourite is the SVR?
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Tornado Reply with quote

Stato wrote:
Joe2027 wrote:
GCR, my second favourite preserved railway.
you do not say but I hope your 1st favourite is the SVR?


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THE SVR OF COURSE !!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

miniandi wrote:
Whats special about Tornado anyway?


I saw her today and it's a magnificent engine !
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

miniandi wrote:
Whats special about Tornado anyway?


Biggest white elephant ever, imho...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WaltTFB wrote:
miniandi wrote:
Whats special about Tornado anyway?


Biggest white elephant ever, imho...



Inclined to agree, and reported to be saddled with 1m of debt to be repaid.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be the way of the future here boys (but I doubt that any of us will live long enough to care) so maybe the attitude presented so far is a tad selfish?

If nothing else it has proven that it can be done...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puffernutter wrote:
Could be the way of the future here boys (but I doubt that any of us will live long enough to care) so maybe the attitude presented so far is a tad selfish?

If nothing else it has proven that it can be done...


Again, imho, the way of the future is the sort of new build that's going on behind the MPD at Bridgnorth. Magnificent as Tornado may be, is it really the sort of thing that can run profitably on a preserved line once our current crop of vintage power becomes too expensive to maintain?

...and they should have built a P2, if size and impact was what was wanted.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WaltTFB wrote:


Again, imho, the way of the future is the sort of new build that's going on behind the MPD at Bridgnorth. Magnificent as Tornado may be, is it really the sort of thing that can run profiably on a preserved line once our current crop of vintage power becomes too expensive to maintain?

...and they should have built a P2.


I agree it'll be hard to run it profitably on a preserved line, or on mainline excursions.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel with all that money they spent, they should of used it to restored an original engine than building a new one to be honest I feel. I like the engine but I still think they should of restored an orignal engine with all that money.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

miniandi wrote:
I like the engine but I still think they should of restored an orignal engine with all that money.
The topic of whether to build a new engine or restore an original has been discussed to death in a number of places. How people choose to spend their money and effort is an entirely personal issue.
As an individual that supports both trains (excuse the possible pun) of thought I like to feel I've got the balance about right.
I have certain personal reservations about Tornado, both economical and technical. The one positive think, for certain, is the A1 people have shown what can be done and deleted yet another "impossible" from the heritage project world.
Now let's stop banging on about a machine that is totally inappropriate for the SVR and get on with those that are.


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