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LNER A1 4-6-2 60163 Tornado
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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miniandi wrote:

Now let's stop banging on about a machine that is totally inappropriate for the SVR and get on with those that are


I have no love of LNER locos so I hope this is seen as an 'un-biased' comment but...

There seems to be enough 'banging on' about other large LNER locos in these forums (A4s?)

I think the REAL point is that the concept of building a loco from new has now been proven, IT CAN BE DONE, and this should be to the joy of people that would wish to see steam running for the next 200 years... As I said previously, it would be very selfish just to make sure they last just for our lifetime...but I guess thats the way things are nowadays...

There will be those that want to keep the likes of originals like 'Truro' running and there will be those that want to recreate 'lost' locomotives.

You pays your money and you takes your choice...there is a place for both schools of thought in the steam railway movement...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you may have missed the point of my suggestion about the efforts being made behind Bridgnorth MPD to recreate a BR Standard 3 tank. If steam is to remain viable on heritage lines it will be locos like 82045 that will be the backbone of services, it was originally designed with lines like the SVR in mind. Given it's size Tornado could only pay it's way on the heaviest, longest trains, and place an inevitable toll on track and bridges. Of course, in 200 years there may not be any coal to burn, efficiently or not...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puffernutter wrote:
I think the REAL point is that the concept of building a loco from new has now been proven, IT CAN BE DONE

That IS the point, isn't it? Whether an A1 was the right choice or not isn't relevant. If the A1 group hadn't led the way, would there now be a Standard 3 tank being build at Bridgnorth?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as I admire and applaud the A1 group's hard work and effort, I have to admit (reluctantly) that part of me feels that the money could have been better spent restoring one of the many 'derelict' loco's stored on various railways, particularly those that had a rather short operating life from new to withdrawal. Only my opinion though.

Have to say though, Tornado looks pretty impressive.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Puffernutter"]
boldford wrote:
miniandi wrote:

Now let's stop banging on about a machine that is totally inappropriate for the SVR and get on with those that are


I have no love of LNER locos so I hope this is seen as an 'un-biased' comment but...

There seems to be enough 'banging on' about other large LNER locos in these forums (A4s?)

I think the REAL point is that the concept of building a loco from new has now been proven, IT CAN BE DONE, and this should be to the joy of people that would wish to see steam running for the next 200 years... As I said previously, it would be very selfish just to make sure they last just for our lifetime...but I guess thats the way things are nowadays...

There will be those that want to keep the likes of originals like 'Truro' running and there will be those that want to recreate 'lost' locomotives.

You pays your money and you takes your choice...there is a place for both schools of thought in the steam railway movement...




I did not type that. I agree with mannorfan
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been confirmed that 60163 will be visiting the SVR during October Very Happy
http://www.a1steam.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1199%3Asevern-valley-golden-jubilee-a1&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=123
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This should give the October passenger numbers a boost.

I wonder how the P-Way department feels about another big loco on the line?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There may even be a chance to have a 'Pacific Weekend' with 60163, 34053 and 34027 on a table B service! Can always hope...

I remember the SVR had a 'Big Engine Weekend' several years ago where I think 60009, 6201 and 6024 were all running on the same weekend?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50668/2015/10/06/advanced

Arrives Kidder 13.19 via Worcester
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that Tornado is here and will be operating service trains as from Saturday, does anyone know which way it will be facing, or is it too early to say yet?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was facing South for its photocharter yesterday.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny252 wrote:
Was facing South for its photocharter yesterday.

But the Traffic Notice does the turntable road to be left clear for the photocharter so it maybe a case of waiting to see what happens tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Times for this weekend, with a change in times for Tornado on Saturday 17th, are now available at http://www.svr.co.uk/NewsItem.aspx?a=697
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Late arrival from Okehampton on Monday evening, then departure to Stewarts Lane on Tuesday morning. Probably a loco to take Tornado away from the SVR.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R40144/2015/10/26/advanced

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50709/2015/10/27/advanced
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sharpo wrote:
Late arrival from Okehampton on Monday evening, then departure to Stewarts Lane on Tuesday morning. Probably a loco to take Tornado away from the SVR.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R40144/2015/10/26/advanced

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50709/2015/10/27/advanced

DCR do the moves so probably a 56, like it came with.
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